WesBanco, Inc. (WSBC) Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call summary and Q&A reveal strong organic loan and deposit growth, positive net interest margin expectations, and effective cost management. The Premier acquisition integration is progressing well, and the company is optimistic about mid to upper single-digit loan growth. Despite some uncertainty in branch rationalization and macroeconomic impacts, the overall sentiment is positive, supported by robust pipelines and strategic growth initiatives. The market cap suggests a moderate reaction, leading to a 'Positive' sentiment rating for the stock price over the next two weeks.
Key Financial Performance
Earnings Per Share (EPS) $0.91, an increase of 86% year-over-year, driven by the success of the Premier acquisition and strong operational performance.
Net Income (excluding merger and restructuring expenses) $87.3 million, an increase of 86% year-over-year, attributed to the Premier acquisition and operational improvements.
Net Interest Margin 3.59%, improved by 64 basis points year-over-year, due to benefits from the Premier acquisition and focus on loan growth.
Efficiency Ratio 55.5%, improved by 10 percentage points year-over-year, driven by acquisition cost savings and operational efficiency.
Fee Income $44 million, an increase of 40% year-over-year, driven by the Premier acquisition and organic growth.
Total Deposits $21.2 billion, increased by 58% year-over-year, with $6.9 billion from Premier and $849 million from organic growth.
Organic Loan Growth 6% year-over-year, supported by strong market performance and operational strategies.
Total Portfolio Loans $18.8 billion, increased by 53.6% year-over-year, with $5.9 billion from Premier and $670 million from organic growth.
Allowance for Credit Losses 1.19% of total loans, decreased due to portfolio mix changes and payoffs, despite a slightly higher unemployment assumption.
Noninterest Income $44 million, increased by 40% year-over-year, primarily due to the Premier acquisition and record highs in several fee categories.
Noninterest Expense (excluding restructuring and merger-related costs) $145.5 million, increased by 47.5% year-over-year, due to Premier's expense base and higher FDIC insurance expense.
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Operating Highlights
Customer Data Systems Conversion: Successfully transitioned approximately 400,000 consumer and 50,000 business relationships from Premier Financial to WesBanco, including branding and operations of 70 financial centers.
New Treasury Management Products: Introduced new treasury management products and services to the expanded customer base.
Market Expansion: Expanded loan production office strategy into Knoxville and Northern Virginia, hiring experienced bankers to lead these efforts.
Healthcare Sector Expansion: Hired a seasoned team of commercial bankers to expand presence in the healthcare industry, achieving early success.
Efficiency Ratio Improvement: Improved efficiency ratio by 10 percentage points year-over-year to 55.5%.
Fee Income Growth: Achieved 40% year-over-year growth in fee income, reaching $44 million in Q2 2025.
Loan and Deposit Growth: Organically increased deposits by $800 million year-over-year and achieved 6% organic loan growth.
Premier Financial Acquisition: Completed the integration of Premier Financial, including customer data systems and operational alignment, contributing to significant financial growth.
Strategic Investments: Invested in new markets and sectors, including healthcare and regional expansions, to support long-term growth.
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Risk or Challenges
Integration of Premier Financial: Potential risks associated with the integration of Premier Financial, including challenges in customer data systems conversion and maintaining customer retention during the transition.
Loan and Deposit Growth: Dependence on organic deposit growth to fund loan growth could be impacted by market conditions or economic uncertainties, potentially leading to funding challenges.
Commercial Real Estate (CRE) Loans: Higher risk CRE loans were sold, but there is ongoing exposure to potential payoffs and market risks in the CRE sector.
Interest Rate Sensitivity: Anticipated Fed rate cuts could impact net interest margin, with temporary headwinds expected in the third quarter.
Cost Management: Achieving planned cost savings from the Premier acquisition while managing increased expenses, such as FDIC insurance and employee benefits, poses a challenge.
Credit Quality: Potential risks from changes in macroeconomic conditions, unemployment rates, and credit quality metrics, which could impact the provision for credit losses.
Expansion into New Markets: Strategic investments in new markets like Knoxville and Northern Virginia carry risks related to market penetration, competition, and achieving expected returns.
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Guidance & Outlook
Loan Growth: Mid-single-digit loan growth expected during 2025, supported by a strong commercial loan pipeline of approximately $1.3 billion as of June 30, with 30% attributable to new markets and loan production offices.
Deposit Growth: Deposit growth is expected to fully fund loan growth for the full year 2025, with a rebound in deposits already observed in July.
Net Interest Margin: A temporary 5 to 7 basis point decline in the third quarter margin is anticipated, followed by a strong recovery in the fourth quarter, returning to levels in the high 3.50s.
Fee Income: Trust fees, securities brokerage revenue, electronic banking fees, and service charges on deposits are expected to remain stable or modestly increase for the remainder of 2025, reflecting organic growth and benefits from new markets.
Capital Expenditures: Strategic investments in long-term growth include expanding loan production offices in Knoxville and Northern Virginia, with plans to hire additional experienced bankers.
Cost Management: Expense run rate for the third quarter is expected to remain consistent with the second quarter in the low to mid-$140 million range, reflecting disciplined expense management and planned cost savings from the Premier acquisition.
Tax Rate: Full-year effective tax rate is anticipated to be between 19% and 19.5%, subject to changes in tax regulations and taxable income levels.
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Shareholder Return Plan
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Key Q&A
Q:Can you provide insights into the increase in criticized loans and how you maintain credit culture while expanding your footprint?
A:The increase in criticized loans is due to regrading of a couple of Premier clients acquired, but the company remains below peer averages. Upgrades and payoffs are expected in the third quarter. Credit culture is maintained through consistent underwriting and credit policies, with long-tenured credit officers and market leaders ensuring alignment with company standards. Credit performance in LPO markets has been strong, and this is expected to continue.
Q:What are your capital deployment priorities, and how do you manage capital overall?
A:The primary focus is on dividends, followed by organic growth, particularly in the Premier footprint and LPOs like Knoxville and Northern Virginia. M&A and buybacks are lower priorities. The company is also focusing on healthcare growth and expects significant opportunities in the back half of the year.
Q:What is the expected loan growth rate for WesBanco, and is high single-digit growth achievable?
A:The company is targeting mid- to upper single-digit growth, depending on CRE payoffs. The balance sheet allows for expansion potential, and pipelines are strong at $1.4 billion, an all-time high. The second half of the year is expected to show strong growth.
Q:Are the current 250 branches the right number, and what are the plans for branch rationalization?
A:The company reviews branch rationalization annually and will do so in the second half of the year. While no specific number is provided, some branches may be closed to improve profitability and strategic alignment, leading to cost savings.
Q:What are the accretion assumptions for the margin, and how will it trend over time?
A:Accretion is expected to drop from 37 bps this quarter to high 20s in the third quarter, mid-20s in the fourth quarter, and reduce by about 1 basis point per quarter over the next six quarters. This trend aligns with expectations for sustainable levels.
Q:What is the status of the Premier acquisition integration, and what are the next steps?
A:The systems conversion is complete, and the focus is now on growth and fee generation. Premier employees are adapting well to WesBanco's culture and processes. The second half of the year will focus on market share growth and adding talented bankers.
Q:What is the status of CD amortization, and how does it impact expenses?
A:CD amortization will mostly be out by the third quarter, with less than $1 million remaining. Savings from cost reductions will be offset by midyear merit increases and investments in LPOs and other areas, leading to a low to mid $140 million expense run rate for the next two quarters.
Q:How will the margin react to potential rate cuts, and what are the drivers for margin growth?
A:The core margin is expected to increase by 3 to 5 basis points per quarter over the next 3 to 5 quarters, even with anticipated rate cuts. Drivers include repricing of fixed-rate commercial loans, securities portfolio cash flow, and CD book repricing, all contributing to margin growth.
Q:What factors could impact achieving high single-digit loan growth, and are there macroeconomic concerns?
A:The main factor is CRE payoffs, which have been higher than in recent years. There are no significant macroeconomic concerns like tariffs affecting growth, but borrower hesitancy could play a minor role.
Q:Are there any fee waivers or changes in deposit service charges related to the Premier acquisition?
A:There were fee suppressions for Premier accounts in the first month or two, but no ongoing waivers. Fee income is expected to stabilize and potentially grow in the third and fourth quarters.
Q:What are the plans for deposit growth to match loan growth, and what initiatives are in place?
A:Deposit pipelines are robust, and a new deposit campaign is being launched. Commercial deposits and treasury products, such as the purchase card, are key growth areas. The company expects to match loan growth in the second half of the year.
Q:What regions or products are next for growth after Northern Virginia, Knoxville, and healthcare?
A:The focus will be on building out Northern Virginia and Knoxville, with potential expansion into Richmond. Growth opportunities also exist in Indiana (Fort Wayne and Indianapolis) and Nashville, with plans to add more bankers in these areas.
Q:What is the contribution of Premier Financial Corporation (PFC) to the pipeline, and what is left to do?
A:PFC contributes about $400 million to the $1.4 billion pipeline. Their employees are adapting to WesBanco's processes, and their contribution is expected to increase in the third quarter as they become more familiar with the company's operations.
Q:What are the plans for calling the preferred stock and refinancing sub-debt?
A:The company plans to take action on the $150 million preferred stock callable in November and explore alternatives for the $50 million sub-debt acquired from Premier, which will reset soon.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing specific numbers or details on branch rationalization, stating only that it would be reviewed in the second half of the year. Additionally, while optimistic about growth opportunities, there was limited clarity on the exact impact of macroeconomic factors or borrower hesitancy on loan growth.
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