Gerdau S.A. (GGB) Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call presents a positive sentiment with strong financial performance, including a significant increase in net income and free cash flow. The share buyback and dividend payout are favorable for shareholders. Despite concerns over imports and economic slowdown, the optimistic outlook for steel demand and cost reduction initiatives indicate a promising future. The Q&A session highlights management's confidence in navigating challenges, although some responses lack clarity. Overall, the combination of strong financials, shareholder returns, and strategic initiatives suggests a positive stock price movement in the next two weeks.
Key Financial Performance
Net Income BRL1.432 billion, a significant increase of more than 50% compared to the second quarter of 2024.
Free Cash Flow BRL3 billion, with almost BRL1.8 billion due to the withdrawal of the judicial deposit for the lawsuit over the exclusion of ICMS tax from the PIS and COFINS calculation base. Excluding this event, free cash flow generation was approximately BRL1.2 billion, driven by a higher level of EBITDA and a significant release of working capital.
Leverage 0.32 times net debt over EBITDA, the lowest level in the last 12 months.
Dividends Payout 55% of net income, significantly above the mandatory minimum set out in our bylaws.
Share Buyback Executed around 57% of the buyback program, investing more than BRL700 million, approximately 2% of the market cap of the company.
Cost Savings BRL210 million in savings captured in Brazil during the quarter, with expectations for more opportunities until the end of 2024.
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Operating Highlights
Steel Demand in Brazil: Increased steel demand in the domestic market in Brazil during Q3 2024, despite challenges from excessive steel imports.
Steel Imports: Monthly average of steel imports in the first nine months of 2024 was almost 80% higher than the historical average, impacting shipments.
Construction Industry Outlook: Positive outlook for steel demand driven by the construction industry, with GDP for 2024 expected to grow by 4.8%.
Injury and Accident Frequency Rate: Achieved an injury and accident frequency rate of 1.58, the best track record in the last 123 years.
Adjusted EBITDA: Ended Q3 2024 with an adjusted EBITDA of BRL3 billion, reflecting cost reduction initiatives and asset optimization.
Cost Reduction Initiatives: Captured BRL210 million in savings in Brazil during Q3 2024, with expectations to achieve BRL1.5 billion in savings by the start of 2025.
Free Cash Flow: Generated free cash flow of BRL3 billion, with BRL1.2 billion excluding judicial deposit withdrawal.
Shareholder Returns: Payout on net income of 55% year-to-date in 2024, with 57% of the buyback program executed, investing over BRL700 million.
Debt Leverage: Ended the quarter with a leverage of 0.32 times net debt over EBITDA, the lowest in the last 12 months.
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Risk or Challenges
Steel Imports: Excessive steel imports into Brazil are impacting shipments, with imports almost 80% higher than historical averages. This situation is exacerbated by rerouting strategies to avoid import taxes.
Trade Defense Measures: The mixed trade defense system (quota tariff) has not yielded expected results, indicating a need for improvement by the federal government.
Economic Activity in North America: Steel shipments and prices in North America are expected to be temporarily affected by a slowdown in economic activity due to presidential elections and steel imports.
Global Macroeconomic Environment: The company faces uncertainties in the global macroeconomic environment, which could impact overall performance.
Cost Reduction Initiatives: While cost reduction initiatives have been successful, there are ongoing efforts to identify further savings, indicating potential challenges in maintaining efficiency.
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Guidance & Outlook
Cost Reduction Initiatives: Gerdau captured BRL210 million in savings in Brazil during Q3 2024, with expectations to achieve BRL1.5 billion in savings by the start of 2025 compared to the 2023 base.
Shareholder Returns: Year-to-date in 2024, Gerdau has a payout on net income of 55% and has executed around 57% of its buyback program, investing over BRL700 million.
Net Income: Gerdau reported a net income of BRL1.432 billion for Q3 2024, a significant increase of over 50% compared to Q2 2024.
Free Cash Flow: Free cash flow totaled BRL3 billion in Q3 2024, with approximately BRL1.2 billion generated excluding the judicial deposit withdrawal.
Debt Leverage: The company ended the quarter with a leverage of 0.32 times net debt over EBITDA, the lowest in the last 12 months.
Steel Demand Outlook: Positive outlook for steel demand in Brazil, particularly from the construction industry, with GDP growth expected at 4.8% for 2024.
North America Outlook: Steel shipments and prices in North America are expected to be temporarily impacted by economic slowdown and imports, with a reversal anticipated in the first half of 2025.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Dividends Payout: 55% of net income, significantly above the mandatory minimum set out in our bylaws.
Share Buyback Program: Executed around 57% of the buyback program, investing more than BRL700 million, approximately 2% of the market cap of the company.
Shares Canceled: Approximately 77% of the shares that were repurchased by Gerdau S.A. have been canceled.
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Key Q&A
Q:Could you give me a little bit more color of how much of that comes from lower demand?
A:The results of the election will be quite positive for us. However, prior to the election, there was a lot of expectation which affected demand in the previous months.
Q:Could you tell us a little bit about what's in your mind in regards to an optimal capital structure?
A:We are moving forward with our buyback program and have a robust cash position, allowing us to continue investing in CapEx and shareholder returns.
Q:Should we expect the pace of the buyback to accelerate in the next few months?
A:We have a goal of continuing and completing our share buyback program, but we have to consider other obligations and investments.
Q:How much of the BRL1 billion in Brazil is already delivered?
A:We captured another BRL210 million in cost reductions this quarter, and we estimate about BRL400 million in total for the second half of the year.
Q:Will the spreads for structural beams go back to the price in the past?
A:We believe that the spreads are influenced by supply and demand dynamics, and it is uncertain if they will revert to previous levels.
Q:Where are we in the topic of imports from China?
A:China will continue to export at high levels, and we need to adjust trade defense measures to manage this.
Q:What is the expected level of margins for special steels in South America?
A:Margins should vary between 15% to 25% in the long run, but the situation in Argentina is currently challenging.
Q:What is the expected level of cash you would like to have on the balance sheet?
A:We have a limit of not more than 1.5x net debt over EBITDA, and we are currently below that level.
Q:What kind of inputs would be more impacted by the higher exchange rate?
A:About 25% of our costs are dollar-denominated, primarily iron ore and metallurgical coal.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided giving a direct answer regarding the specific impact of the election results on demand and the future pricing of structural beams. Their response lacked clarity on the exact measures being taken to address the influx of imports from China and the effectiveness of trade defense measures.
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